Virginia Beach, VA 23459 . Posted on 12/10/2001 6:01:40 AM PST by csvset, Pretenders to glory: Exposing Navy SEAL fakes By BILL BURKE, The Virginian-Pilot December 9, 2001. Did you see the last one? asks Charlie Pivar, from Florida. ``This has been tearing me apart,'' he said. ``Skip'' Moeller, 54, who drove the Chevrolet Cavalier with the Ohio plates, had been telling his war stories long enough, the old vet said. Burkett and Glenna Whitley for their excellent book entitled. Of those 17,600 men, roughly 10,000 (or fewer) are still living, and approximately 2,400 of those living members are currently serving on active duty. He wanted to stay in the suck. As far as the teams are concerned these individuals are persona non gratis. In his spare time, he is known as the hunter of poser SEALs around the country. So does the puke rule. Ten seconds before you throw up, you have to call for the instructorsso they can take a picture of the moment for Facebook. The SEAL Database is an alphabetical listing of EVERY man who ever graduated any form of training for Navy Combat Demolition Units, Underwater Demolition Teams, Scouts and Raiders and SEAL Training and dates back to 1943 at our inception during WWII. is like, to say they EARN it is a major understatement. ), From: meyer@nctimes.net (John All Rights Reserved. http://www.katu.com/news/local/108335084.html. The "SEAL Database" is an alphabetical listing of EVERY man who ever graduated any form of training for Navy Combat Demolition Units, Underwater Demolition Teams, Scouts and Raiders and SEAL Training and dates back to 1943 at our inception during WWII. [email protected] (john meyer) let's make an official soa phony list: Navy Seal Shares His Wall of Shame Steve Viola YouTube from www.youtube.com. Respectfully, Joseph J.Attorney at LawRetired FBI Special Agent 1982 - 2007. When a man graduates BUD/S Training in the Navy, or even begins it and fails, he is listed in a database. Records are kept. LITTLE ROCK, Ark. On Oct. 25, 1967, President Lyndon Johnson awarded him the Medal of Honor in a White House ceremony. He knew his colleague was an imposter. Part slapstick comedy, part To Catch a Predator, the show has racked up millions of views and earned a following among Navy brass, too. I don't know why. They study, they are refined and they get away with it for decades. Transfer Rope 10. Why is this medal on your rsum worded incorrectly?and listen as they tied themselves in knots trying to explain the discrepancies. More than 350 people attend each summer. In 1998, Sterner began compiling a public database of Medal of Honor winners. SEALs call it drown-proofing.. Though temporarily blinded in his right eye by a North Vietnamese hand grenade that landed about two feet away, Lee helped rescue a Marine reconnaissance unit under withering enemy fire. The Navy gathers the information and provides it to the Warfare Archives. Others dont follow that same code. For a person to steal money might be explainable but there is no excuse for any type of "stolen valor" case. Before 9/11, there were only about 1,500 active-duty SEALs, according to Couchs book. Hell Night looms large. You have a far greater chance of meeting a former NFL football player than you have of ever encountering a real Navy SEAL. But at 68, Lee still remembers clearly what happened in a steamy jungle in Vietnam in 1966. They're everywhere. The guys hair is long like a California surfershe wants to know if he can wear a swim cap tomorrow during Hell Night. More than 150,000 people watched that episode. Number 31-1728910 The Navy SEAL Foundation is a 501(c)(3) tax exempt, national non profit charitable foundation. Some names are easier than others as there are a number of Jones, Smith/s and Johnsons as an example, so a middle name and approximate age is sometimes required. Robbie has been listed as a fraud and resigned from the VFW. (Note: At least one served But hell entertain the phonies excuses for a while before blowing their cover. Weaver 13. When Shipley first materializes at my session, everyone stops what hes doing to watch. 1619 D Street The commandos who rescue hostages and infiltrate enemy countries covertly, who killed Osama bin Laden and saved Captain Richard Phillips from Somali piratestheir East Coast headquarters is 30 miles away in Little Creek, Virginia. Hampton Roads is rich in the romance of frogmen and the famed SEAL Team 2 and owns bragging rights to TV ``Survivor'' Rudy Boesch, probably the most celebrated SEAL of all. (does not claim SOG connection, but claims SF & POW status) NOTICE: THIS Eight of us went onboard in the flippin middle of a typhoon and stayed with em for 18 hours. Parallel Bars 2. I start skimming the fine print. It was total bullshit, says Shipley, who had lauded the faker as a hero. ~ Benjamin Franklin. Another mentions his amazement when he called the camp phone number and Shipley himself picked up. With the Internet now, they can be whatever they want to be and spread their crap World Wide. Michael J. Gaynor has written about fake Navy SEALs, a town without cell phones, his Russian spy landlord, and many more weird and fascinating stories for the Washingtonian. My Swim Buddy was Ollie Ollieoxenfree,replies the quick thinking Phony. To have that guy fail? Ohhh OK, let me buy you those drinks now. Shipley hawks his camp as the closest civilians will ever get to authentic SEAL life. This past Memorial Day, a 75-year-old retired Marine named Robert Ford walked through a festival in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. The time and investigative costs involved that used to be very minor have now increased significantly. But they could only project it down a couple of barstools at the village pub. Hopefully its not hot dogs. BUD/S, UDTR, UDTB and UDTRA Training Classes have been numbered starting with Class ZERO that became the first Class to train in Coronado, California in 1950 but Class ONE graduated Training in 1947 at Little Creek. Perfect conditions (to our instructors) for a dip in the pool. Rope Swing 17. A tow truck soon appeared and removed the Lexus. In addition to Nolan, would-be SEALs with local ties include a schoolteacher, a former Secret Service agent, a car dealer, a merchant seaman, an NROTC officer candidate, a real estate agent, a limousine driver, active-duty military members, men who have never served in any branch of the armed forces, and barroom and chat-room poseurs. Sterner believes the law is weak, and enforcing it is not a high priority. Especially when we puke. Helmet of hair gleaming in the cameras lights, Shipley would sit at a desk ratting out fakers over speakerphone. His database for commemorating heroes soon became one for exposing charlatans. Paul would give advice on workouts, on the life of a Navy . All inquiries are kept confidential, and I understand how important "knowing the truth" is. The first team will use its new prisoner-handling skills to capture a high-value target. 05/30/2017 by hombrerana1221. These are scumbags identified by SOA or friendly, identifiable allies who help (Just as well, because during the prisoner-handling lesson, I was more likely to find myself being handled.). Not many outside of the SPECWAR Community, and VERY few in the Community, can accurately rely on asking someone for their BUD/S Class number as proof if they are/were a SEAL or not. OUT CLAIMS OF POSSIBLE WANNABE'S, http://www.katu.com/news/local/108335084.html. More than 5,000 servicemembers had come home in caskets. And the proprietor knows where to find the best mud. A woman said bluntly that she ``will not marry a liar.''. (When I asked an FBI representative how many Stolen Valor cases it has worked, I was told the numbers are not readily available.). We do squats against a fence, trying not to be the first ones to fallthey get more push-ups, more frigid hose. The FBI estimates that there are 300 SEAL Imposters for every living Navy SEALMilitary Imposters are NOT a new phenomenon, and men throughout history have claimed participation with Roman Legions in battle and claimed to have served with Washington at Valley Forge when they did not. https://www.facebook.com/pages/VFW-Po. Part 4 BENJAMIN CRAIG SLAMAN the Fox News CIA SEAL Jerkoff Dude. posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its He knows whos lying. When he identified an instructor as one Master Sergeant Andrew Smith, Shipley called him out. For all we know, there are hostiles lurking somewhere in the quiet deep, instructor Shipley planted to sabotage us. Southeast Asia). Sure enough, the fellow rolled up his sleeve and showed off the tattoo on his arm. 35 34 Related questions More answers below But as I count, I hear my fellow students call back in unison. We smear paint on our faces and strap on fake machine guns. Is it yellow? It was time for the truth to come out. ``He uses this claim for gain at our place of employment,'' wrote a co-worker. Those who are fakers are not courageousthey are predators who use our trust to further their criminal agendas. And take your hands off your weapon. He would allow the imposters to talk themselves up for a while, flaunt their war stories. High Wall 5. Each time I surface, I shoot brown snot from my nose and spit out muck that tastes like sour milk. I cant really remember what a good push-up looks like, but I know whatever Im doing isnt it. I asked him what command he was assigned to and he slowly began to scan the bar left and right as if what he was about to say would shock me and he didnt want anyone else to overhear it. A California TV station picked up the story. At that point, there were no books written about SEALs, there werent any movies. At 50-years old, Im not as fast with my fists as I used to be, but Im lethal with a keyboard and anyone who attempts to steal the Honor of SEAL Team has their hands full with me. Naval Special Warfare, Underwater Demolition and modern day SEAL Teams, have always welcomed any man of any race into our ranks as long as that man could do the job, Anyone needing a Navy SEAL claim verified should send a good spelling of that persons name to Phony Navy SEAL of the Week. service), MCGUINN LOUIS LOWELL www.phonyseals.com - Retired Navy SEAL Senior Chief Don Shipley BUSTS fake Navy SEALs. The author, center, in the mud. The message on his answering machine identifies him as ``Captain Charles Moeller.'' Plummers despicable claim is for political gain and delusions of grandeur trying to equate himself with Carl Brashear, the Navys first Black Navy Master Diver and the inequality Master Chief Brashear faced and made famous in the movie Men of Honor.. Shipleys fake-SEAL policing started six years ago, when a former Marine wanted to donate two sniper rifles to Shipleys camp. Their echo quiets the pain, energizes me, and although I can barely gulp a breath by the end, I finally howl out the last push-up. (He was indeed a SEAL.). There are NO Navy SEALs needing money sent overseas to bring them home. But I just thought it looked cool.. When a Scandinavian businessman demanded that Nolan pay a $63,000 debt, Nolan told the businessman he had been a member of the special forces with the U.S. military, according to testimony by an FBI agent who investigated Nolan. | Tags: BUD/S, CIB, Combat Infantryman Badge, Navy, SEAL, BACKGROUND Jose Carlos Montanez (-Nazario) comes to us from Chesapeake, Virginia. I found your e-mail response to me very professional and informative. | Tags: BUD/S, Navy, Operation Just Cause, Operation Nifty Package, Panama, S.P.I.E., SEAL, SPIE, Category: Afghanistan, Army -Special Forces, Army/Air National Guard Posers & Embellish-ers, Combat Medic, Combat veteran, Medals, Mogadishu, purple heart, Stolen Valor, US Army Posers & Embellish-ers, Vietnam For $10 a month, you can surf channels such as Ask Don and Diane Shit and watch a slicker version of Phony Navy SEAL of the Week. The backdrop is no longer Shipleys living room. Please. And to avoid a court-martial, Nolan received a less-than-honorable discharge from the Navy in June 1992 after going AWOL for 53 days. the wall of shame, aka stolen valor stooges 21 Pins 5y A Collection by Dean Dyer Similar ideas popular now Military Humor Stolen Valor Al Capone Phony National Guard Frontline Good Job Decoration Derek Ranger Derek Church Military Police Usmc Military Jacket Battalion Regiment Female Soldier Mckenzie MacKenzie-phony-female-soldier #fakewarhero http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqhoUX, Earl Littman has been outed as a scam artist running a fake charity. Does it have flowers on it?, Later that night, were all sitting around a campfire slapping the bugs away and trading stories about how we got here. Elizabeth Mckenzie, Fake Soldier, Fools Hometown Into Honoring Her - Guardian Of Valor, "Stolen Valor: Man accused of impersonating SEAL Team 6 member to solicit money outside Wawa" | RallyPoint, Vets find former legion official lied about his service, heroism, Ranger faker found guilty on firearms charges. in Houston -- hadn't talked to him in 31 years. With that said, the FBI estimates that there are 300 SEAL Imposters for every living Navy SEAL. His helmet of hair is even bigger than it looked on camera, so thick and unreceded hes barely got a forehead. Retired Navy SEAL Don Shipley BUSTS Phony Navy SEAL Robert Robbie Robinson from Fort Lauderdale, Florida. After retiring in 2003, he worked for Blackwater in Pakistan and Afghanistan. Another told tales about how the Navy showed videos of killing women and kids to toughen him up. Shipley didnt like that onehed been talking up the character that time in uniform builds. The rating means the ``claimant is `incorrigible' and continues to make claims despite proof that his claims are not supported by government records.''. The Korean War ended 7 days later. Burma Bridge 14. ), The John Kerry's & John Murtha's Fruit Loop Kids, (You be the Judge, various communications We launch our Zodiacs into the night and start paddling down a boggy stretch of the Northwest River in silence. Which is how I found myself in my current situation. The 47 range in age from 22 to 62. Blurring fact and fiction Organizations that expose imposters say claims by bogus Rambos with enhanced military resumes have reached epidemic levels. Congress cut all funding for Indochina 10May73, 10. But they pulled the plug before the pilot came together. There was NO LISTING for a Neil Smit as ever being a Navy SEAL. Thats because for the average citizen who tries to verify someones military service, the process isnt exactly straightforward. And theres Shipley, standing on the other side of the putrid pool, ready for a round of Hide the Trainee. One boasted of knifing a polar bear to death during an Arctic expedition. He says the phonies caught on to his MO and hung up when they recognized his voice or caller ID. But even in my delirium, I know thats unlikely. ``When I heard (Arrowood) was coming to the building, I thought, `Oh, geez, maybe I shouldn't have been doing that,' '' Ashman said. According to Shipley, there are phonies who lie to scare their girlfriends into staying in abusive relationships. Guys that claimed service at Gettysburg, Valley Forge. Chuck Schantag of Skidmore, Mo., and his wife run a site that exposes POW imposters. Were supposed to keep going for two minutes, but 30 seconds in, my ass is arched so high my body looks like an Egyptian pyramid. . Im so disgusted and confused by what this creep has put me and my family through. If I will provide a detailed verification letter of the person in question NO LATER than 24-hours after receiving the request stating if that person was ever a Navy SEAL or not and most often within a couple hours as I check my email often. I waited almost three weeks for heavily redacted documents confirming Shipleys military service to arrive. Its strange at first but makes sense as the message turns to the camaraderie he assures us will develop during tomorrows Hell Night. Shipley used a Freedom of Information Act request to pull his records. The extreme conditioning we did all day has drained us. Just got this off Dons FB wallthey just keep coming, The Top Ten pick up lines bartenders heard used on women? ``I'd just say, `Excuse me, but to the best of my knowledge, you're not a Medal of Honor winner.' Our task is a long swim. "Sincerely, S.". It is the real suck. Unless he was trying to show these kids the example that your falsehoods will surely be found out I fail to see the point. " Before his lips were even closed after saying the word SIX my fist impacted his ugly mug and he was down in an unconscious pile of Fleet Sailor. Ashman had not. Cargo Net 7. I cant see six inches in front of me, and it seems like miles before we rendezvous with the other team. The scene is a boot camp called Extreme SEAL Experience, held in the tidewaters of Chesapeake, Virginia. Fake Navy SEAL Verification - Fake Navy SEAL Check Phony SEAL Check NAVY SEAL TRAINING PROGRAM - NAVY SEAL BUD/S TRAINING Navy SEAL BUDS Training Program. SEAL Verifiers are meticulous and we do our homework before raising the Phony Flag. While veterans and active military devour Shipleys vigilante-style justicethe perfect counteroffensive for con men sullying the SEALs reputationyou dont need to have worn a uniform to get sucked in. the necessary information. Setting an example Dean C. Ashman said it all began innocently around 1995, and his motives were purely altruistic. Do you know Mr. Ashman? departed Vietnam Airspace Jurisdiction, MACV was officially disbanded), 7. I havent run a mile since high-school gym class or done push-ups for even longer. . Former military will Facebook him about a new colleague whose Navy stories dont ring true. Tires 3. SOA charlatan list, something, but it gives us a vehicle to ID wannabe scumbags. Navy.''. Short for Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL, BUD/S is the conditioning-and-tactics class every aspiring SEAL must pass at the start of his career. Tricks and treachery are the practice of fools, that don't have brains enough to be honest. " The rock of shame is a large rock (boulder, really) that has the names of specific members of the Navy SEALs. Arrowood's classroom was two doors from Ashman's. But he has never met one. Once Im up to my elbows in slime, I realize what he really meant by that. Click the below link. The Navy SEALs Wall Of Shame page: 1 0 Byrd posted on Dec, 27 2002 @ 09:15 AM It surely is a bad idea to annoy the Navy and an even worse one to annoy a Navy SEAL. Protecting the legacies of guys like Luttrellas close to Navy SEAL royalty as they comehas made Shipley a celebrity in commando circles, but also among those who dream of joining the club. Some hope to impress women with tales of derring-do, others to boost their self-image or even use the SEAL cachet to get a job or a promotion, according to those who would like to see them ``outed.''. Like a heat-seeking missile, Shipley pursues these imposters who have stolen the valor of those . Shipley's fake-SEAL policing started six years ago, when a former Marine wanted to donate two sniper rifles to Shipley's camp. Theres a nervous energy in the air, like the first day of summer camp. Navy Seal Wall Of Shame List. A television crew appeared. WILLIAM J, CSM (This Weird is good. Nationwide, pretenders to military glory have included a Pulitzer Prize-winning historian, private investigators, judges, a school superintendent, politicians and political aspirants, actor Brian Dennehy, police officers, the operators of a Vietnam veterans museum, a Veterans of Foreign Wars post commander, preachers, janitors, murderers, even a transvestite. Ashman insists that he did apologize to Arrowood and said he does not recall Arrowood asking him to set the record straight with his students. [CDATA[ Coolest thing I ever did.. The database contains the names of the more than 9,700 men who have served as SEALs and is updated with each graduating Basic Underwater Demolition/SEALs class. Shipley felt he didnt fit in there. Its the be-all, end-all verification of a true SEAL. He is originally from Bayamon, Puerto Rico and appears . totes Butterfly Print Poncho with Pocket. The average poser is merely out for sex, free drinks at the local bar, or just a nice ego stroke. 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